Information for you EU Vaper to send to your online shop

June 5, 2016 DJLsb Vapes 1 comment

Here is some Information for you EU Vaper, to send back to your online shop, when you receive an email from them saying that because of the TPD they are going to stop selling online.

Also make sure you share this as much as you can…



Is really a shame to know your shop is going that way.


There are a few things that you should know before deciding to completely abandon hundreds, thousands or millions of vapers out there.


Nowhere on the TPD it states how they will or intend to ban or not allow to be sold an atomizer that is basically a metal tube, and not being sold along with a nicotine juice, you as a shop can’t be liable on how the end user will be using that metal tube with some essences, food ingredients or nicotine.


Nowhere on the TPD it states how they will or intend to ban or not allow to be sold an mod that is basically a voltmeter or power bank, and not being sold along with a nicotine juice, you as a shop can’t be liable on how the end user will be using that voltmeter or power bank attached to some metal tube with some essences, food ingredients or nicotine.


Even-though we all know how the end user will be using the equipment he is buying on your shop to vaporize eLiquid with or without nicotine, if your shop just stops selling eLiquid with nicotine online limiting that to in shop sales that action will be enough to comply with the TPD, because again your shop can’t be responsible on how the end user will be using the hardware.


Another thing is the upcoming and growing market on tomato or potato extracted nicotine, will they consider now on tomato or potato as tobacco products, please keep in mind the meaning of the word “tobacco”, tobacco is a plant where can the nicotine be extracted from, so imagine how everything involves and has been legislated being classified as tobacco products. That is the way we should all think, out of the box, because imagine your shop, selling hardware and only tomato extracted nicotine, if they need to do something about it the way they are including and legislating vaping as a tobacco product (remember tobacco is a plant) if you decide to still sell the hardware online, or decide to only sell tomato extracted nicotine, they will need to completely write an entire legislation, banning sells online of all the vaping gear, all the vaping hardware, all the vaping eJuice as tomato products and not as tobacco products anymore.


We all should be together on this, defending ourselves, defending the already existent vapers that may or may not depend on your shop to still get their products that allow them not to go back to smoking and defending the ones still smoker that eventually will die with some disease and can still be saved, yes can still be saved, because vaping is not only about gear, hardware and clouds but about saving lives wherever they decide to blow baby clouds or huge clouds, again all about saving lives. Well sometimes i think some are on this industry only for the money…


We all should be together and discuss a powerful organization, an European one, not local, to defend vapers as well as the vape industry in Europe, if you and your business are interested in defending vaping, please share the word with the most influenced people and with doctors or any other knowledgeable people in this industry because we all should put an end to those actions and wherever the interests behind them.


There is a person that even without the need to be involved or inserted on any future organization made to defend vaping is currently trying to get everyone with influence, medical knowledge or studies or even anyone who already distributes non-tobacco nicotine together and the contact for that is



Some curiosities just to provide you or your business a perspective of how unfair this is and who is really behind those actions:


The US Environmental Protection Agency, in their Registration Eligibility Decision, concluded “that there are no endpoints of concern for oral, dermal, or inhalation exposure”, and that “a review of the available data has shown propylene glycol and dipropylene glycol to be negative for carcinogenicity in studies conducted up to the testing limit doses established by the Agency; therefore, no further carcinogenic analysis is required” and again that “Propylene glycol and dipropylene glycol were tested for mutagenic or genotoxic potential and found to be negative in a battery of studies”. It is worth noting that PG is present in certain asthma inhalers.


Concerning VG, the evaluation prepared for the OECD by the UK Environment Agency shows that “the weight of evidence indicates that glycerol is of low toxicity when ingested, inhaled or in contact with the skin” and “Glycerol is free from structural alerts which raise concern for mutagenicity. Glycerol does not induce gene mutations in bacterial strains, chromosomal effects in mammalian cells or primary DNA damage in vitro.” The evaluation concludes that “no further work is indicated, because of the low hazard potential of this substance”.


Nicotine is an alkaloid found in the nightshade family of plants, predominantly in tobacco and in lower quantities in tomato, potato and aubergine.


Whilst the precise single lethal dose for a human being is unknown, it is estimated to be from 30 to 60 mg for an adult and about 10mg for a child.


Nicotine has a half-life of about two hours and is completely expelled from the body in 8 to 10 hours. In normal use nothing indicates that nicotine per se has harmful side effects.


The addictive power of nicotine is often mentioned but evidence for it seems to be more anecdotal than quantified. It has been questioned in depth by, in particular, Professor Robert Molimard (see “Le mythe de l’addiction à la nicotine”). It can also be questioned by the fact that nicotine replacement products are singularly ineffective and have rarely been reported to cause nicotine addiction.


Nicotine patches may contain up to 25 mg of nicotine delivered over 16 hours.


A nicotine gum may contain up to 4 mg; up to 15 can be used every 24 hours and it may be used in conjunction with patches. This gives a maximum exposure to nicotine over 24 hours of 60 to 80 mg.


The NICORETTE® Inhaleur contains 10 mg cartridges and the maximum number of cartridges recommended by the manufacturer for use in one day is 12, giving a maximum daily availability of nicotine of 120 mg.


Pfizer’s equivalent product, the NICOTROL® Inhaler, contains 10 mg cartridges and the maximum number that should not be exceeded is 16, giving a maximum daily availability of 160 mg.


They are now hundreds including apple, vanilla, cherry, various kinds of chocolate or coffee. They are especially enjoyed by vapers who have completely quit smoking and who comment on how much their taste buds have recovered their sensitivity. Sampling different flavours excites much passionate debate, with the proponents of one exchanging their appraisals with those of another. Together with the choice of nicotine level, or of the kind of equipment used, what most stands out is the extent to which individual preference varies.


Concerning electrical safety, it is surprising how few accidents have been reported given that tens of millions of electronic cigarettes have been and are being used. One that is often cited is that of the explosion of a battery in Florida early in 2012 causing serious injury to its owner. The numerous reports of the incident fail however to stress that the battery concerned had probably been modified by the user. It should be noted that restricting access to the range of products currently available is likely to encourage more personal modification, thereby creating the conditions for more accidents to occur.


Concerning what is known as e-liquid, very few accidents have been reported which again is surprising given the vast number of bottles in circulation. We are aware of only two. One is quoted by the German Cancer Research Centre (DKFZ) to support their view that e-cigarettes should be severely controlled. The link DKFZ provides shows that it involved a patient who suffered asthma, reported rheumatoid arthritis, fibromyalgia, schizoaffective disorder, and hypertension. Her medications included amlodipine, albuterol metered dose inhaler, lovastatin, lisinopril, multiple vitamins, cycloben zaprine, citalopram, and multiple psychiatric medications. She developed lipid pneumonia after starting to use an electronic cigarette and upon ceasing the practice, her symptoms improved.


This case can hardly be considered typical and the fact that it is stressed by the DKFZ indicates that the organisation must have been short of anti e-cigarette arguments.


The second case is that of a little girl who died after drinking a bottle of liquid nicotine. This tragedy, which occurred outside the ambit of EU regulation, emphasises that whatever the concentration of nicotine, the same precautions should be taken for phials as would apply to any hazardous household product: they should be kept secure and away from the reach of children. It should be noted that bottles containing very high concentrations of nicotine are used when mixing liquid at home rather than buying it ready-made (a practice called Do It Yourself or DIY). Banning liquids that contain flavouring would encourage more people to DIY, resulting in the probability of more accidents.


UK Society for Research on Nicotine and Tobacco published a study that concluded “The use of e-cigarette is largely confined to smokers and ex-smokers…


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